Comments on: Out of gas? Just add water!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:51:20 +0000

The common concern is violation of the law of conservation of energy. Of course this law can’t be violated, and there seem to be three choices. One, it actually does require more energy in than is produced by the efficiency increase. Two, the water must use some catalyst to help with electrolysis so there is more energy out than is put in. Three, the efficiency increase in gasoline combustion must, as said above, be greater than the energy input required for electrolysis.

Final note: when someone says something about the energy required to do something, they need to define their system. Gasoline requires more energy in than we get out of it too. One little spark is not enough to drive a car. Energy must be spent making the gasoline in the first place. Transportation cannot be viewed as some sort of self sustaining operation, no matter the energy source in the vehicle.

By: je moeder

je moeder — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:43:09 +0000

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By: sudip

sudip — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:15:23 +0000

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By: Zachary

Zachary — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:53:41 +0000

The concern for the inefficient use of the battery is aleviated when one considers what those 12 volts are mostly used for. That is, turning a heavy-laden starter pinion on start-up. Otherwise, most of the stored energy in a battery is not utilized during vehicle operation. The alternator and voltage regulator provide an output that operates electronic devices during driving. You could disconnect your battery as long as the motor is running and not notice the change during driving. Therefore, drawing off of that 14.5 volts or so during driving to electrolize is not taxing on a battery or on an alternator. My less than $30.00 project has already yielded a 14% increase in mpg. That’s like getting a raise from $10.00/hr. to $11.40/hr. You just need to get your own hands dirty and start caring about how you spend your dollar a little more. Study and you’ll understand.

By: sky

sky — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:34:48 +0000

The author of this article doesn’t understand the concept properly. The idea is not to run the car solely on hydrogen and oxygen generated from water, but to use a small amount of hydrogen and oxygen (called Brown’s gas, btw) to effect a more complete burn of the gasoline the car mostly runs on. Because hydrogen has a much faster flame front than gasoline, it also causes the gas to burn, not only more completely, but more quickly, thus transferring the force to the piston earlier in the cycle, thus resulting in more torque from the same amount of gas.

Because the gas is burned more efficiently, you can get away with a leaner gas/air ratio; however, unless you’re using an older car, you’ll need some electronics (available in kit form) to fake out your car’s O2 sensor; otherwise your car’s computer will think it’s not sending enough gas and you’ll lose any mpg gains because you’ll be running a rich mixture instead of a lean one.

As far as clean emissions go, the “hydroxy booster” is an excellent way to cut down on pollution, because it causes the gasoline in your engine to be burned much more completely. This has been verified by studies at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory as far back as the 70s.

By: jebyrnes

jebyrnes — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:59:52 +0000

Whenever I’ve brought up the fact that this will tap into the impending water crisis to engineers, they merely say “well, it will come down as rain again, anyway” – yes, but WHERE?! What goes up does come down – but not where it goes up.

There seems little consideration given to this. Of course, I’ve heard others say “well, we’ll just do it from sewage, anyway”, but I have yet to hear any research, plans, or infrastructure for this pathway.

Given the colossal problems corn based ethanol is demonstrating, I shudder what to think would happen if we opened up our drinking water pipes to hydrogen.

That said, if you can have solar/wind generated electrolysis on sewer water, then, heck, sure, I’m all for it!