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	<title>Comments on: The Managed World: Green Noise Means You Can&#8217;t Have Everything</title>
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		<title>By: budak</title>
		<link>http://theoystersgarter.com/2008/06/17/the-managed-world-green-noise-means-you-cant-have-everything/#comment-1711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[budak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See also Real Climate&#039;s take on Wired&#039;s myths: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/06/wired-magazines-incoherent-truths/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also Real Climate&#8217;s take on Wired&#8217;s myths: <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/06/wired-magazines-incoherent-truths/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/06/wired-magazines-incoherent-truths/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd G. Carter</title>
		<link>http://theoystersgarter.com/2008/06/17/the-managed-world-green-noise-means-you-cant-have-everything/#comment-1698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lloyd G. Carter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of wisdom here. For a closer look at the irrationality of California water policy take a look at my website, www.lloydgcarter.com.
   I&#039;ve been writing about California water politics for nearly 40 years, first as a reporter for United Press International and the Fresno Bee and now as an attorney/environmental activist and board member of the California Water Impact Network.
  As a former award-winning reporter I can tell you that most of the mainstream media, with a few exceptions, are clueless about the real shenanigans that go on in the water world. Indeed, not a single newspaper in California, including the Los Angeles Times, has a reporter assigned full-time to the water beat even though everyone seems to agree water is THE CRITICAL ISSUE in California.
   Regards,
     Lloyd Carter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of wisdom here. For a closer look at the irrationality of California water policy take a look at my website, <a href="http://www.lloydgcarter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lloydgcarter.com</a>.<br />
   I&#8217;ve been writing about California water politics for nearly 40 years, first as a reporter for United Press International and the Fresno Bee and now as an attorney/environmental activist and board member of the California Water Impact Network.<br />
  As a former award-winning reporter I can tell you that most of the mainstream media, with a few exceptions, are clueless about the real shenanigans that go on in the water world. Indeed, not a single newspaper in California, including the Los Angeles Times, has a reporter assigned full-time to the water beat even though everyone seems to agree water is THE CRITICAL ISSUE in California.<br />
   Regards,<br />
     Lloyd Carter</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Wolff</title>
		<link>http://theoystersgarter.com/2008/06/17/the-managed-world-green-noise-means-you-cant-have-everything/#comment-1695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Wolff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not that the mainstream media doesn&#039;t like complicated nuanced discussions, it&#039;s that *people* don&#039;t like complicated nuanced discussions. If mainstream readers consumed information that way, the mainstream media would write it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that the mainstream media doesn&#8217;t like complicated nuanced discussions, it&#8217;s that *people* don&#8217;t like complicated nuanced discussions. If mainstream readers consumed information that way, the mainstream media would write it.</p>
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		<title>By: Miriam Goldstein</title>
		<link>http://theoystersgarter.com/2008/06/17/the-managed-world-green-noise-means-you-cant-have-everything/#comment-1693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miriam Goldstein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric and I meant to do a series on that Wired article back when it came out, but it got away from us. At the risk of being Behind the Internet Timez, we will take it up again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric and I meant to do a series on that Wired article back when it came out, but it got away from us. At the risk of being Behind the Internet Timez, we will take it up again.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://theoystersgarter.com/2008/06/17/the-managed-world-green-noise-means-you-cant-have-everything/#comment-1692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s true.  (And problematic, because as &quot;green&quot; becomes a mainstream choice, the national discussion of these issues automatically dumbs down.  Mainstream media don&#039;t like complicated, nuanced discussions of painful topics with no clear right answer.)

And I&#039;m glad you read that article.  Take it to task some more, plz!  Tediously self-satisfied is only the beginning of the problem...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true.  (And problematic, because as &#8220;green&#8221; becomes a mainstream choice, the national discussion of these issues automatically dumbs down.  Mainstream media don&#8217;t like complicated, nuanced discussions of painful topics with no clear right answer.)</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m glad you read that article.  Take it to task some more, plz!  Tediously self-satisfied is only the beginning of the problem&#8230;</p>
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